相信很多人和我一样,无法理解荔枝在18、19集中,独自决定孩子的去留,在流产之后又独自决定要离婚的行为。
我无法读懂她行为背后的逻辑链,我恨她没有对程亦治说过一句道歉,即使查理作为她的朋友,替她向程亦治解释了一句“她知道之前是她误会了你,错怪了你,多疑了你,也伤害了你,但荔枝的性格我们都了解,她就是说不出口嘛
相信很多人和我一样,无法理解荔枝在18、19集中,独自决定孩子的去留,在流产之后又独自决定要离婚的行为。
我无法读懂她行为背后的逻辑链,我恨她没有对程亦治说过一句道歉,即使查理作为她的朋友,替她向程亦治解释了一句“她知道之前是她误会了你,错怪了你,多疑了你,也伤害了你,但荔枝的性格我们都了解,她就是说不出口嘛,平时的事情犯了小错道个歉就过去了,如果太错了,道歉就轻了。”
之前看过很多的霸道总裁的剧,就是单纯的恋爱剧,基本上没有什么其他支线的内容。所以看到泰版《王子变青蛙》的时候,有一种眼前一亮的感觉。这不是一部单纯谈恋爱的剧,也不是一部专门搞商战的剧,亦不是一部悬疑剧,而是一部讲悬疑、爱情、商战甚至是幽默结合到一起又不会让你感觉到很突兀的剧。
这部剧的层次感特别好,在三种风格的切换中来去自如
之前看过很多的霸道总裁的剧,就是单纯的恋爱剧,基本上没有什么其他支线的内容。所以看到泰版《王子变青蛙》的时候,有一种眼前一亮的感觉。这不是一部单纯谈恋爱的剧,也不是一部专门搞商战的剧,亦不是一部悬疑剧,而是一部讲悬疑、爱情、商战甚至是幽默结合到一起又不会让你感觉到很突兀的剧。
这部剧的层次感特别好,在三种风格的切换中来去自如,并不是很生硬的那种转换。在前期剧情中你以为只是甜甜的恋爱,却突然发现居然还有追杀的情节,但是这并不突兀。毕竟男主的身份摆在那里,而且之前的剧情当中也有交代,所以有一个很好的呼应作用。包括在之后男主恢复记忆后的回归,以及女主的到来都在商战的这一支线上起到了很大的作用。这种多风格融合的剧真的可以多拍。
毕竟大家看的单线的电视剧已经很多了,这种多支线而且还把剧情结合的这么融洽的剧真的
因为好喜欢杨阳导演,所以追了这个剧,到现在豆瓣还没出分,但从短评看起来,这有可能是我追过的分最低的剧。忍着升高的血压刷着豆瓣短评,就没刷到几个好评的,一开始会有点蒙:到底谁疯了?直到有一集偶然看到一条弹幕,他说男主是回避型人格,这是个我在10年做心理咨询的时候见过的词。继续思考下去,我突然意识到,影视作品所能获取的评价,好像不是我此前想当然的以为的,取决于作品本身
因为好喜欢杨阳导演,所以追了这个剧,到现在豆瓣还没出分,但从短评看起来,这有可能是我追过的分最低的剧。忍着升高的血压刷着豆瓣短评,就没刷到几个好评的,一开始会有点蒙:到底谁疯了?直到有一集偶然看到一条弹幕,他说男主是回避型人格,这是个我在10年做心理咨询的时候见过的词。继续思考下去,我突然意识到,影视作品所能获取的评价,好像不是我此前想当然的以为的,取决于作品本身的优劣,那太理性了,再理性的观众都无法做到完全不带私货,这个私货,即这份作品所触发的观众在相关情境下的私人过往体验。我在2012年的时候看过一部台剧,叫《我可能不会爱你》,剧里的男主和女主是从中学起的好友,男主一直不敢告白,所以十几年间二人各自恋爱,始终保持着朋友身份。这个剧当时很火,从文本到拍摄到演员都很好,到现在还保持着豆瓣8.9分的好成绩,我当时把它安利给一个朋友,没想到她看完破口大骂,因为她刚结束了一段失败的恋情,因为她不是女主,她是那个男主优柔寡断无数次试错的那个错。也就是说,如果作品里面呈现了一个场景,勾起了一部分观众并不快乐的回忆,而作者有没有站队在他们这一侧,那完了,哪怕他拍得再好都难以避免被骂,作品没有权力要求观众理性。但我还是觉得遗憾,《听说你喜欢我》这部剧,虽然不是什么上品,老梗烂梗有挺多,但对主角人物,尤其是男主的刻画上,是非常完整和细致的,二人关系的一波三折,到目前也是非常合理的(当然我也承认,因为有点太合理了,而有点闹心)。男主的一整个行为模式,都是严格按照一个回避型人格来写的,彭冠英也演得非常棒,这一点上编剧真的牛逼,当初我尝试过自己写小说,在给我的人物立人设的时候费了很多脑细胞,我无法做到这么好。除了以上的遗憾,我也同样为男主遗憾,也为现实中的“宁至谦”们遗憾。这些天,因为在知乎里搜过“回避型”这个关键词,于是收到了很多相关推送,无意间看到了很多“回避型人格”受害者的控诉,以下算剧评,也不算剧评,我仅是作为一个典型的回避型人格,替“宁至谦”做一些翻译。先简单得介(拷)绍(贝)一下“回避型依恋”这个概念。依恋理论最初由英国精神病学家John Bowlby提出,并在Mary Ainsworth的研究中实现重大进展。依恋理论描述了不同依恋类型的人在关系中的不同表现,包括“安全型”、“焦虑型”、“回避型”、“恐惧型”。除“安全型”外,其他三种都不是健康的心理状态。“回避型依恋”的表现主要分为以下几个方面:1)对私人空间的需求很高,关系的拉近会使他们产生一种被控制的恐惧感。他们在关系中也随时处于防御状态,准备着关闭自己的“情感阀门”,从关系中撤离。2)回避型依恋的人常常压抑自己对于亲密关系的需要,说自己“对谈恋爱不感兴趣”或是“谈恋爱好麻烦啊”,并且看似很独立,所以对他们来说,进入一段亲密关系是很困难的。即便在谈恋爱时遇到极端的应激事件,回避型依恋者也会竭力装作漠不关心。比如面对伴侣提出分手的威胁,他们可能也会无所谓地耸耸肩说:“随便你啊,不行就分呗。”3)回避型依恋的群体会将情绪的表达视为软弱,他们习惯独自消化自己的情绪,更不能容忍在他人面前表达出自己的脆弱。他们会因为觉察到自己的脆弱而嫌弃自己甚至惩罚自己,同时也会看不起那些在他们看来“情感脆弱”的人。4)回避型依恋的人习惯于独自处理任何问题,并很难再对其他人产生信任感。由于过于独立,以至于会看不起任何依赖他人的行为。以上是回避型依恋者的表现,或者说给他者带来的感受。以宁至谦为例,对照剧情:1)和萧二哥倾诉被照顾得越好越感到压力;多次拒绝妻子的陪伴和提出的沟通需求;下班之后留在车里……(底层心理是坚信只有保持独立才是安全的,失去独立则意味着危险)2)明明急盼着和妻子团聚,却在被误解后不能做出有效解释;离婚前夕无法张开嘴……(底层心理是害怕因为怕被别人拒绝,所以自己先拒绝自己)3)对做过的暖的事情进行遮掩或否认,如果无法否认,就用一张破嘴迅速消解;对求婚被同事围观感到尴尬以至于气愤;(底层心理是害怕被翻译成与情感相关的东西,拥有太多的情感意味着软弱,软弱意味着危险)而该依恋类型的成因,经过心理学家研究和统计,通常是经历过儿时的情感忽视,这种情感忽视往往是创伤性的。当处于这样的家庭环境时,在孩子情绪脆弱时,家长往往会忽略他们的情绪需求,这会使得孩子对表达自己的情感失去信心甚至感到羞耻,因为很有可能得不到任何回应。一个回避型依恋的孩子,在母亲或其他重要养育人和他分开时不会有明显的情绪,不像有的孩子会哭闹不停,对于省心和焦虑也不会有太多的表达,等到母亲回到身边时,他也不会自发地寻求亲近。对照宁至谦:单亲家庭,拥有被父亲抛弃的记忆并始终不能释怀(原台词是:“当年我爸和我妈离婚的时候,我以为我爸会争夺我的抚养权,结果他根本不想要我,他就像嫌弃一件旧家具一样嫌弃我”),母亲忙于工作疏于照料(原台词来自于母亲:“妈妈一直忙于工作,对你的爱很少,很多爱你都没能得到,妈妈想让你学会爱别人,这样你才能得到真正的爱,知道了吗”)。男主这里回答的是“知道了”,但是他显然不知道,除非他对“依恋类型”理论有充分的了解以及自我诊断(即使作为我个人,哪怕有这个自觉,也依然常常无法对自己的心理惯性进行有效控制)。于是后面展现的宁至谦的别别扭扭,都是他无意识的与此惯性的对抗。作为深度回避者,我个人的恋爱经历不多,且大多是以我的脱逃结束,最大的原因在于,但凡我对对方的爱不够强烈,都无法最终阻止我的回避。也因此,我能够确定,让宁至谦一点点到最终成功对抗回避的,只有足够深,足够稳固,足够成熟的爱。足够的爱和被爱,会驱散回避者原始的恐惧。说到底,无论是依恋的“焦虑型”或是“恐惧型”,它们其实是毛刺,而非内在的东西,内在的是爱,也或者是不爱。我不愿意让这部剧作因为没有被理解而不能受到公正的评级,也不愿意让“宁至谦”们,因为没有被理解而一直受到咒骂。这是写下这篇文章的大部分初衷。
写完以后,发现并没有给宁医生翻译啥,不知道翻译啥,os是“这都这样了还用翻译啊”。另外一部分,是想反驳对女主恋爱脑的批评,每次看到弹幕或者评论里这么说,那个火噌噌得就往上冒,这个改日再写。注:本文中引述的部分心理学科普知识摘自“简单心理”、“咸鱼讲谈社”知乎账号文章
Feel Good is a low budget 6-episode TV show which mysteriously skipped my attention when it was first brought up by a friend: probably because it features n
Feel Good is a low budget 6-episode TV show which mysteriously skipped my attention when it was first brought up by a friend: probably because it features no big star (Lisa is one, but in a small role), and British TV shows like Fleabag and Killing Eve have raised the bar very high now.
However, one night, I started to watch the first episode and was very impressed. The not so sub plot of addiction is so well-written. I really like it when Mae (its main character shares the same name with the writer and lead actor, which is a bit confusing) expands the definition of ‘addiction’: ‘it’s all the same feelings, craving, and withdrawl, and relief, and obsession. We are just swapping one addiction for another’. By doing that, Mae Martin (I will use the full name when referring to the creator) connects the love story and Mae’s struggle to stay clean together. Mae Martin challenges the audience to view addiction as not only a struggle among a group of people, but something many of us face when being in a toxic relationship with partners, or, say, social media. By then, I am convinced Feel Good is quite good because the creators know ‘nuances’. Its focus on addiction also reminds me of Killing Eve S2, the key word for its 2nd season is ‘obsession’. While both handle compulsive/toxic feelings between people/people and object, Killing Eve’s take on obsession is disappointing, Feel Good, on the other hand, only gets better episode by episode.
Story aside, I am mesmerized by how the show introduces the love story to the audience. It is fast-paced. As Guardian remarks, ‘Feel Good moves so quickly and lightly that it seems impossible it could also be managing to construct characters and burrow into psyches as deeply and empathically as it does.’ You never need to fast-forward; it’s densely-packed but you won’t feel stressful; the plots mingle effortlessly. It takes 30 seconds for Mae and George to fall in love with each other. I love how unconventional and unapologetic it is. I love how an LGBTQIA (bless Joyce) story focus on how the two lovers enjoy their relationship (at least for the most part) without giving too much attention to how they are unsure if the other is into them, or suffering from loneliness because they can’t find a partner. Of course the loneliness issue exists and there is suffering, but there are many representations of those already. Feel Good shows how the relationship can be the start, rather than the ending, of a story.
I also like how the struggles of Mae and George are more about themselves making choices than them being in disagreement with a suffocating society. It is refreshing to see not only Mae’s parents, but George’s mother, support their sexuality. Mae’s gig pals don’t make a fuss about her having a girlfriend. The roommate Phil is an angel. The lead of the support group is a gay man; Lava is loved by her mother regardless of her sexuality. While Binky’s husband and his friends are ‘piece of shit’, I don’t see them as homophobic (I could be wrong though). The show demonstrates that everyone can and should be nice to LGBT+ community. I like how Feel Good doesn’t use societal approval as a trope; instead, it allows us to see Mae and George as individuals who make their own decisions. Yes, sexuality is and will be important in their lives, but they don’t let it to devour them, they can still breathe.
The relationship is beautifully written and wonderfully performed. I mean THE CHEMISTRY!! Yes there is sex. As Mae Martin said, she didn’t want the lesbian sex to be voyeuristic. I congratulate her in doing a fantastic job!! Feel Good has amazing sex scenes: they are romantic, witty, hilarious, and honest. The director and writers make sure the sex scenes are not about sex/lust only, they are also about female pleasure. Mae and George communicate and share their sexual preferences; they don’t force their fetish on the other, instead, they ask politely. The show doesn’t mystify lesbian sex: even lesbians can’t cum and that’s ok! Feel Good has achieved what Sex Education has done: it has educated people (older than high schoolers) how to have sex, and more importantly, how to discern when the relationship is going south.
There are nudity scenes and they are (quite literally) serving the plot: it is when Mae feels most vulnerable physically. The paradox of the physicality and the personality is, however, not restricted to gay people. Mae is struggling because she believes however hard she tries, she can never have George in the long haul because George is ‘culturally straight’. George, however, insists this idea is just in Mae’s head. (Or is it?) It becomes apparent that the couple is not on the same page on many things. Mae is shy but she wants public validation of their relationship: she wants to be blessed by George’s family and friends. George is popular (win the lottery) but she is ultra private when it comes to Mae. She points out her friends just want to crack a joke and emotions (mind, not sexuality), for them, is gross. Eventually, George will have to face her own real emotions. There is a moment where Mae questions why George never like/retweet her social media stuffs. As Fleabag says ‘Hair is everything’, the (non)usage of social media, I argue, is (almost) everything. This again shows the discrepancy between the couple – which, of course, is normal; in every relationship/friendship, such disagreements happen and that’s what makes this show so relatable.
It is interesting to note that the dynamic between the two flows all the time. I find myself on the side of Mae and then I am on George’s side! For example, the first episode shows Mae concealing her addiction history from George, which is a bit dishonest; but George also makes Mae think she’s already mentioned her to her friends while actually she’s dating some Crenshaw dude. I find it especially interesting that while George is portrayed as a cold person (she leaves Mae alone in a party; she’s rather cold towards Phil etc etc), Mae can also be quite aloof – check what she does to Lava. When she says let’s not share this with Maggie, it is as if George were saying let’s not tell my friends now.
Talking about George and her friends, I really like how the show does about their friendship. It shows that those friendships, even though ‘long haul’, are not necessarily genuine. Indeed, things can be tricky, if not scary, when friends finally choose to be honest with each other, right?
Binky’s husband and friends are hilarious characters, but the show makes sure not all the male characters are caricatured. I like Phil a lot; he’s giving me the neighbor who ended up marrying Hannah’s boyfriend’s sister in Girls, especially when he’s mentioning all the baby stuffs. Mae’s dad is a charming character; but I am not sure if he’s a good dad. His ‘Oh I need to check the garden’ is a specimen of dad type, who leaves all the dirty job of communicating with kids to mums. The show also inserts in a MeToo story plot where things turn sour quickly. In all, the portrayals of male characters are multifaceted. Well done.
Last but not the least: small roles. Does the show even have small roles? Because everyone shines. Even the shop assistant of that sex shop: the scene is so funny and captivating. Lisa Kudrow is funny but in a cold way – which is really nice. I am not crazy about her first appearance in the laptop; seeing her appear in Blackpool is a real surprise for me (and Mae). I love the scene in Ghost Train the most. Arguing in a horror house/moving train, with all the noise and terrifying man-makes while discussing ‘real emotions’, which is the most terrifying of all – what a genius idea!! The fact that the show keeps vague about why Mae is cast out of the family is an interesting one; I quite like how her mother points out her privilege and that she has everything she wants when she grows up. Again, the show is looking at the mysterious and intricate human mind that is not so easily explainable. Apart from that, I don’t think there are a lot of TV shows that discuss ‘privilege’. Kudos to the writers for highlighting this aspect.
The photography is really pretty. It, like TEOTFW, has a consistent tone, which is even reflected when Mae and George are in bed. Note the beautiful blue shadow. The music is nice. The costume looks comfy and lovely (never let the costume steal the show– I’m talking to you, Killing Eve). My favorite, as I said earlier is the pace of narration. Mae has run a lot and it is a signature of Feel Good, like Fleabag’s looking at the camera.
Feel Good is about a female stand-up comedian. In the States, there is The Marvelous Mrs Maisel. Both Mae and Midge suffer from a backfire from they using real-life stories with their partner (judging from S1 finale, haven’t watched S2 yet). It is interesting to think how personal the stand-up mateials can be, but having just watched Hannah Gadsby’s Nanette, I am reminding myself that in order to make things funny, the ‘truth’ can be compromised. While Nanette is almost metafictional when Hannah approaches/disconstructs what makes comedy, I don’t think that is the angle Feel Good is heading towards. However, it is still fit to think about the show amongst the powerful works by Mae Martin’s fellow female comedians. The freshness of the show also reminds me of Girls (with its minute depictions of modern female life) and Fleabag (with its candidacy about real emotions). Feel Good deserves more recognition and PLEASE CAN WE HAVE SEASON 2 THANK YOU NETFLIX!!
刚开始是冲着赵刚来的,没想到还百般无聊的看完了。若当做是一部喜剧片来看,还算完成的不错,当然还是需要有一双善于观察的眼睛。如网友们所说,剧中不切实际的地方太多,言语也显得幼稚化,从一些细节中便可见端倪。不论是清一色华为后第一位使用三星手机的反抗者段总,还是那个廖书记背后永远吃不完饭的大妈;不论是那位在经济开发区被曹司机推了一把的无辜施工队员,还是那位说着流利普通话的闽北老农民,其中的欢乐总是
刚开始是冲着赵刚来的,没想到还百般无聊的看完了。若当做是一部喜剧片来看,还算完成的不错,当然还是需要有一双善于观察的眼睛。如网友们所说,剧中不切实际的地方太多,言语也显得幼稚化,从一些细节中便可见端倪。不论是清一色华为后第一位使用三星手机的反抗者段总,还是那个廖书记背后永远吃不完饭的大妈;不论是那位在经济开发区被曹司机推了一把的无辜施工队员,还是那位说着流利普通话的闽北老农民,其中的欢乐总是书之不尽。从剧情的发展上看,政和总是在廖书记说完一通看似高屋建瓴的话后焕然一新,大家从不否认政和取得的成就,但还想看的是细节,而不是“几个月后”。当然剧中有些地方提出的问题还是挺现实的,但解决问题的方法就有些敷衍。比如廖书记招商引资、教改、医改三管齐下,还顺带要打打地头蛇,资金已经很紧张了,他说总能解决问题的,然后问题真的解决了,其实我也想拥有这种解决一切资金问题的能力。到结尾时,在欢笑中还希望廖书记再创奇迹时,他却在一场车祸中殉职,不禁泪湿眼眶,不知是为此前带着喜剧眼光看这部正剧带来的羞耻,还是为国家真真切切的失去了这位好干部而惋惜。