群像剧播了快二十集了，主要角色个个有槽点，剧情处处是雷点，观众看个预告都要心惊胆战又怕编剧生出什么幺蛾子。编剧真TND是个人才。主要业绩一：能力差。多线推进一盘散沙，主次不分。温如雪的戏份断断续续，按需出场，假?女主，真?心灵鸡汤公众号；职场戏堪比过家家，高管斗争就靠背后说闲话造黄谣；投研报告收益率少个1导致项目差点失手，编剧可能不知道报表数字都有勾稽运算关系，最后的结果不是手敲进去的吧？跨国酒店做活动，铺垫了十几集，各种吊胃口，结果危机就是，优盘不见了？这堪比，搞奥运会开幕式把五环丢了一环，全球直播时才有人发现。这堪比，盖了一栋摩天大楼没修门，剪彩时才有人看到。主要业绩二：无底线。为了吸引眼球制造话题，女总裁欣然接受健身教练性骚扰，两个少女和离异大叔的恩怨情仇，为了姐妹反目就安排出个两个八竿子打不着的人在海南邂逅。涩女郎明明塑造了四位性格各异有闪光点的女性人物，在我们这位女性编剧的笔下，感觉不到任何她对四种性格的认可和喜爱，潇洒姐的潇洒不是人生态度的洒脱，只着眼于一段段狗血恋爱；事业姐的事业心不是工作上的上进和优秀的职业能力，而是职场低情商四处树敌，情场优柔寡断处处被动；结婚狂对婚姻和家庭的向往，庆幸只有前几集写了倒贴软饭男，人设还没崩完就收手了，但是后面和段序定情后再怎么写还是令人担忧；天真妹就更不忍提起了，一点正面描写都没有，遇到的都是骗子，就她是个傻子，编剧认为的天真就是对陌生人掏心掏肺投怀送抱，对亲人撒泼打滚不知感恩，所有不喑世事的无知少女都只配得到这样的社会毒打是吧？我不懂，这编剧真的是女的吗？为什么对女性这么大的恶意。主要业绩三：三观不正法制观念薄弱。对主要角色重拳出击安排各种膈应人的桥段，对软饭男绿茶女等争议人物蜜汁怜爱、惺惺相惜，各种NPC人物更是游走在违法犯罪的边缘，深夜跟踪攻击、酒吧绑架、当街耍流氓，这TMD还是在魔都拍的，深刻怀疑我中华国土上有这位编剧描写的治安这么差的城市吗？还是要做这位编剧的主角就得有吸引犯罪分子的体质？请内地各位职业演员及其团队擦亮双眼，以后看到这位编剧一定绕着走，要么就拿出一点片酬，给这位编剧众筹一个代笔。否则不管你是影帝影后，血再厚也禁不起糟蹋。

也是老电影系列，老港片系列，老影碟系列，都是小的时候在看的电影，我发现我小时候看的老电影还真的是多，长大之后反而不怎么看电影了。一个是因为好电影越来越少，都是圈钱的了，另一个是因为工作了不能随心所欲的。这电影具体情节已经不知道了，只记得林熙蕾好看，她在里面演的是一个诱惑的大美人~美人到哪里都是美人

抱歉，看了一点点，快进了！评分低是因为，从编剧开始的所有人都沒用心，想吐槽女主丑，但也沒有那个看得更顺眼一点的！连女儿都没有一点小孩子的样！严重偏离了走向好电影的航道，完全放飞了自我！估计成本不会高，但不知道能不能收回成本，一方面，我希望谁都好一点，成本都收不回的话会打击很多人，另一方面，我觉得这样的东西还是越少越好！

仿佛为虐而虐一般，这部剧几乎每一个配角，都过上了“惨绝人寰”的人生。

傅筹

其实作为一个男二能和女主成亲我还挺意外的，但是经超的演技真的很快就把我拉进了坑。如果傅筹是男主的话，这就是一个先婚后爱的美好故事了，惨就惨在，傅筹只是个男二啊。

所以男二和女主的婚礼，就只配被男主抢婚，还要听男主在大庭广众之下宣告女主已经和他睡过了？这种被绿的方式也太惨了吧？??

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40集来拍出年代剧真的很难的，所以它只能选择部分情节来稍显刻意突出人物形象和推动故事发展，让我们感觉人物是矛盾的或者说矛盾的不完整，没能用更多的细节来展现鲜活而又“完美”发展的人物形象的确不是很讨喜。但是，坚持看完后会发现故事是感人至深的，“父母们”对孩子的爱是真切的，越是在黑暗时刻越显得真实。很多电视剧的剧情都能轻易猜出来，但有的是猜出来后就不想看了，还有的是越看越让人着迷。

Does filming oneself and one’s own partner acting as non-professional actors equal documentary filming? Does exhibiting the process of fiction-making, or the making-of of fiction, equal non-fiction cinema? What if the non-professional acting finally gets an influence of your daily non-acting? Is reality also the result of our exercises in fictionalising reality? If two non-professional actors say that they stop acting when the camera continues to record, did they “really” stop acting? Is any exhibited making-of of a film, even the making-of of the making-of of the film, potentially fictional? Would the fictionality of the making-of be more real than the reality of the fiction which the making-of refers to? What if a dying man or a two year-old child participate in an explicitly staged fiction? Can they be prepared enough, manipulated enough, in order to not bring some non-fictional reality into fiction? If the explicitly staged fiction displays the drama of a non-professional actress being manipulated by the rules of acting, does this mean that the non-professional actress is less manipulated, in reality, because she accepts being manipulated in order to express through her acting how bad it would be to be a manipulated non-professional actress? Does a meta-cinematic reflection rise when we realise that the ethical questions discussed in the drama coincide with the classical ethical questions of documentary filmmaking, like the question of filming and, in a way, seeking for suffering? If the pact between the non-professional actors would be to perform their own real life, would the non-scripted moments of improvisation go beyond the limit of their acting domain and show an effective non-fiction? Which should be the position of the spectator when, the explicit ambiguity between fiction and non-fiction notwithstanding, the highly credible dialogues make us suspend our disbeliefs? Should we resist the suspension of disbelief only because the realistic dialogue of a couple stops at once with the couple revealing their acting? When the non-professional actors, a couple themselves, start then to behave as if in their acting performances, should their previous dialogues be taken as even more credible or even more staged?

All these questions arose in me during the viewing of Xiaozhen Wang’s two-hours long Love Poem. Even if the film is not devoid of genuinely dramatic moments, which we experience when we surrender to the cinematic suspension of disbelief, its main filmic experience coincides with our own intellectual inquiry on fiction and non-fiction. The climax of the interlocking layers of fiction and non-fiction comes in the last scene of the film, where the filmmaker takes the initiative to stop the camera, but this scene will confirm the impossibility of attempting to disentangle fiction and non-fiction. Then music will appear. Yes, Love Poem is mainly intellectual cinema, and I cannot but immediately add: so what? For in speaking of “intellectual cinema”, I already feel the pressure, today, of having to defend its legitimate existence against the anti-intellectualism that seems to loom among film scholars and cinephiles… Cinema has told, tells, and will always tell the story of the reflection on its own dispositive and fundamental issues.

Text: Giuseppe Di Salvatore

First published: April 26, 2020

Love Poem | Film | Xiaozhen Wang | CHN-Hong Kong-SAR 2020 | 114’ | Visions du Réel 2020, Burning Lights

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Fist year, there are 50 children taken from home criminal home. Most children were given a new names. And them go to the foster care. Others. Others are not general parents bring here Gorman House. We take care their physical and mental. yes,sir. I've been want to coming in here for a long time. I think I can help them .Elizabeth. Oh.sir. Please call me lili. Most of these kids go to jail or mental house. Keep them here safer for everyone. Keeping guard.

Oh help my name is lili I new here I want to know something about you. Oh, there's bob. You don't say much oh big guy. No..Er. Thank you for coming. I'm... lili.yeah. I heard you. Oh sorry, I'm Jason. Jason and Bob. And what makes you always drug,Jason? Material? They give you something you eat something. We think you know more about that. You won't give me some trouble, aren't you? No, Lili. Serious you keep saying my name? No. rocky I like it come in my tongue.

Back and do want you need to do. I didn't do anything. Don't look at me.

What are you doing? What's the big deal? It just a stupid mice.

Is everything all right? Yes, dr. Lang. I'm fine. I have words with Isak and Bob. Bob did nothing. Looking for tomorrow's section. Eh, actually, Bob didn't do anything. Is he fight? He was protecting me? You want me let you know what are he doing in his last foster family? They take away his dog. Yes, that's perfectly a good reason hit someone. Yes, there's what I'm thinking.

Oh sorry. I'm no propose to scaring you. No, you didn't. Thank you for help Bob. You don't even know her. That's such nice. Well, I here to help you. You are the nice person I first know in here. So I thought you should know. Know what. The everything in Ct room. Why that? You can see it tonight. Jason, you will get out here in some day. And you can't just don't trust people, you doesn't mean you shouldn't trust other, well. I think about that.

I don't know what to say.

This is don't like a stupid child do. This is evil. We have to put it down.

The way of these kids I do. They won't give up easily. I understand. I don't think you do. Although they are kids, but I don't want your heart soft. If they shot first, and then let god solve down. That's permission. You copy that? Copy.

其实严格来说我并非是追了六季。前五季，我是在友人的推荐之下一口气看完的。把它当作一个les剧，就着快节奏的剧情，前三季在我眼前一晃而过。慢慢看到四五季我才从两个女主的世界走出来，去关注每一个人的命运。这个被牢笼锁住的地方，对每一个人来说都是自己一生的救赎之地。而这种救赎并不是来自监狱的教育或者狱警的严加看管，而是这些女人在经历了糟糕的社会后，在经历了彼此的背叛与伤害后，对一个和睦、友好的社会的期待。这就是她们想要改造的监狱。这也是她们想要生活的社会。第六季，一切都在慢慢变好。或许就如剧中那些女子需要看似什么都没改变却又什么都改变了的一场riot一样，我们的世界也需要一个riot。和一个“反叛者”。

说当初耐飞花大价钱买续集的时候我就在想，这玩意也配！？第一部就在故弄玄虚，逻辑狗屁不通，欧美是真的这些年没有出过好的推理电影了，在矮子里面选个水货将军大吹特吹！

好了，到了第二部，已经不是水了，沦落到狗屁不通了，整个人物逻辑全都立不住！

首先说故事起因，黑妹！你的定位可是顶级大公司的创始人呀！！！大公司的领导人是什么角色性格和类型？编剧能不能看看大企业ceo和创始人都是什么类型再来编这个人物？？！？一个纯纯的二百五！表面上雷厉风行，为了阻止能源计划马上决定带一半公司离开，看上去有智商，有良心，可就是没脑子！首先，要带公司一半，哪一个傻逼会直接说出来？给对手研究怎么打到自己？肯定是背后悄悄下手，杀个措手不及呀！第二，找到了证据为什么不直接交给律师，来个绝杀！还要给发邮件？圣母心泛滥？第三还有为什么要在家里单独人见这些人？不是应该在公共场合律师陪同？你不死谁死！？第四，你就真的把纸巾放在家里，你不怕被偷出意外？有点脑子的人都知道要么藏在别处，寄给你妹妹也好呀！果然和凶手是可以做好朋友，一个没脑子，一个250

第二，凶手，电影里定位说他是蠢货，我看说是蠢货都抬举了，我们就不去说电影里自己都吐槽的不销毁纸巾的事情了，最起码得一点，你可以把纸巾信封放密码箱，保险箱，地下密室什么之类的只有你知道的地方，你要保存能不能好好弄？放在那里深怕别人发现不了？？？？

第三，侦探角色，到底什么方面让我看出他是世界上最出名的侦探？？想通过别人的口中和凶手提前准备的推理游戏体现他的能力，可是故事主线的线索是黑姐去弄的，他又到底做了什么，有什么关键作用？发现了什么线索？没有呀没有！！！！！！！！我怎么相信他是世界最优秀的侦探？我就觉得他是一中年待业躁郁男，爱显摆自己聪明，结果整个案子结尾他还是无能为力？聪明优秀在哪里？？第一部我就觉得这个侦探到底哪里优秀了？还不如写小说的老头

其他角色我不想吐槽了，这个故事逻辑就站不住脚！不要和我说什么为了故事推进balabala 的，推理故事就是要严谨，人物立不住就是立不住，垃圾就是垃圾！看看阿婆的无人生还，估摸都一百年前的作品了，你连脚趾头都碰不上还来碰瓷暴雪山庄模式，丢不丢人！

最后和邦德说，知道耐飞给的多，但是给的多能不能好好拍，不是应付了事，我知道你也是项目负责人！还要和导演说，啥玩意，不会拍就不要拍！

看了网上不少的解析，想说一下我对剧情的理解。

从剧中的大环境来说，两个敌对国家：宋朝和吐蕃，两国的情报机构；宋朝的是青帮，吐蕃的是波旬，两国交战的重点是长汀镇，也是两家情报机构争斗的地方。剧情的大方向：吐蕃利用鬼怪之说惑乱宋朝军队的军心，然后突破长汀镇，侵占宋朝，宋慈在吐蕃大军到来之前才破解迷案，作为青帮首领的女主单骑面对吐蕃大军。结局：宋朝赢了，女主回来了？？？（什么情况？咋就赢了？女主和宋慈还去了临安，长汀的青帮不管了？这种情况难道是宋朝大胜，暂时不用太在意长汀了？）

疑点1：宋慈喝了几名死者的毒血，为什么没死？

疑点2：罗二为什么没给他的妻子解毒？

疑点3：罗二三年都没动手，反而在找到了解药金鳞草的时候，送舒童去死？

疑点4：小商人彭咸之为什么能霸占青帮的舒童？

关于疑点1和疑点2。照罗二信中的说法，他配置出了解药，但是没解舒童的毒，而且他“不想解释”，但是舒童的毒是已经解了的状态，为什么这么说呢？因为宋慈喝过几名死者的血，但是他没死，而且发现了金鳞草，宋慈以为金鳞草的作用是将迷魂散变成香薰，其实它的作用是解药（证据是罗二发现金鳞草对解迷魂散的毒有奇效），那么舒童的毒是谁解的呢？应该是青帮，或者说是丹青，凝香馆用的香薰就是用金鳞草制作的，青帮早就有迷魂草的解药！！！想想也是正常的，两个敌对的情报机构，青帮为了对付波旬的迷魂散，早就研制了解药。青帮解了舒童的毒，然后清醒的舒童在婚礼上瞎掰了那些诅咒，然后自尽，使得鬼怪之说兴起，惑乱青帮效忠的宋朝的军心？说不通啊！可是换个思路想一想，如果这是青帮的一个局呢？这也就能解释电影结局宋军的胜利。

青帮在得知吐蕃和知县想通过鬼怪之说惑乱宋朝军心，将计就计，逼迫脱逃的舒童和罗二投靠知县，献出“诅咒杀人”这个计谋，引吐蕃大军过来，布下陷阱，一网打尽。计谋中舒童是必须死的，这是对脱逃者的惩罚，而罗二可以活（罗二在知县身边十年，对其倒卖军用物资的行为虽然看不惯，但是还是视而不见）。罗二在计谋里面夹带了私货，即彭咸之和赵有发这两个仇人的死。在婚礼上，彭咸之暴起杀人，他是清醒的，因为他是波旬教徒（有迷魂散，之前给舒童下吃过），是自愿执行计划的。彭咸之死后，鬼怪之说彻底兴起，计谋成功，罗二假死脱身。之后，罗二鼓动知县去杀女主丹青（波旬去杀巡抚了。这时候明面上吐蕃的计划已经成功了，杀丹青不是很必要，罗二的理由可能是让玉玲这个叛徒二把手尽快掌管青帮），这个逼死舒童的凶手，女主因此瞎了一只眼睛，反而应验了诅咒中的话，因果循环（剧中可能为了强化老鲁的那个因果）。罗二良心未泯，心中还有宋朝，没有将青帮的计划告诉吐蕃，吐蕃大军最终大败。

综上所述，关于疑点3，罗二的复仇对象有赵有发、彭咸之、丹青、巡抚、知县、青帮、波训教，举世皆敌。

关于疑点4。青帮的凝香馆是情报机构，舒童是情报人员，跟罗二有染，还怀了孕，想要脱离，青帮不肯放她，反而顺水推舟把她给了彭咸之，让她打入波旬内部（有金鳞草，也不怕被迷魂散控制），但是罗二把她带走了，破坏了青帮的计划，因此青帮派人追杀舒童。

以上仅属于个人见解。